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Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006, 05:42 pm
When the '70s attack.

IBM Workpad c3 (or other vaguely modern Palm)

If you have one of these (left)...

...you might want to turn it into one of these (right)...

...using the little Palm OS application I wrote yesterday. It's Harris-tastic.

Edit: Removed the clear: both that I realized was breaking some people's friends pages. Sigh...CSS needs better scoping.

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 05:39 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: It am art.

Pointless, silly and irritating. Yup, that's art.

Now if I could just figure out how to INSTALL thingummies on Onan from Linux...

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 06:12 pm (UTC)
lionsphil: Re: It am art.

There's a gnome-pilot applet which you can add to the panel, which I've used to synchronise with Evolution (which, incidentally, rocks---it's got that Netscape Mail feel I love, with none of Thunderbird's chronic bugs). IIRC, while poking with such, I found /some/ way of feeding it PRC files, but didn't have one to actually install at the time. Try its context menu.

Word of warning: the daemon behind it is more than a bit rubbish. If it locks up, the applet will to---a little ps wwuU <username> (I've forgotten the exact binary name, but it's something obvious) and killall -9 should unjam the former, and the latter if needed. Gnome's sensible enough to detect a panel applet going 'splode and handle it without 'sploding itself.

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: Whose context menu?

I really can't figure this out...

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 07:27 pm (UTC)
lionsphil: I was thinking the gnome-pilot applet.

However, it looks like I am wrong, unless it's been fixed since June.

It might be gpilot-install-file, followed by a hotsync with gpilotd (which I assume you're already using if you're doing stuff other than installing PRCs from Linux). Might. Read manpage, proceed at own risk, etc.

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 07:35 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: Re: I was thinking the gnome-pilot applet.

I asked for some help on #SPORKS. Got told to start installing random crap, probing modules and all sorts of radom shite. Asked if there was any chance of it being anything remotely resembling simple to do.

They told me to get a Mac. And then (checking the "last few lines" over on the site) started being nasty about me when I expressed my displeasure at being insulted in my /quit message.

Right now, I'm finding it very hard to remember why the fuck I go there.

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 08:27 pm (UTC)
lionsphil: Ah,

it's still keeping up the stereotype of arrogant and unhelpful Linux users, then. Goodgood: I haven't missed anything worth reading.

If you're running Ubuntu, and using a USB cradle (or possibly a serial port one), I'm pretty sure that everything you need is already installed. (I'm sure I mentioned my assumption that you were still Ubuntu-ing in the subject line of my first reply, but LameJournal appears to have eaten it. I'm currently seeing if I can do...anything with the IrDA port on this Gentooised lappy, and rapidly coming to the conclusion that my Palm will have decomposed, plastics and all, before I can even find any useful documentation on how to get the whole crazy chain from kernel modules, through udev, to gpilotd to speak to eachother. I think I've got the right module loaded, but the device node is playing hide-and-seek and, at this point, I'd be quite happy for it to hide in heavy traffic.)

Sigh. Operating systems. They're all underdocumented* piles of legacy shonk!

* At least Ubuntu gets the alternative right in this area: autoconfiguration. Still not a patch on Kanotix, though, because open source hippies don't actually share code when they can spread out the good bits amoungst multiple products instead.

Mon, Sep. 11th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: Yeah, it's still Ubuntu.

And still incomprehensible. With any luck tomo2khas a Palm, and will be able to beam it at me... or I'll meet up with you at some point...

IR on laptops is completely fucking useless, even under the operating systems such computers were allegedly designed for. I've come to the conclusion that it's like the cameras on mobile phones (or in more recent times, the mobile phones in cameras) (ie something useless, bloaty and complex that has zero practical use, you never wanted in the first place but you don't have the option to not have because of all the fucktards grunting "jus' dun use i' ven") but at least you can fiddle such that it doesn't fuck up the interface by its presence.

Evidently I am in a bad mood right now. Please consider the spleen-venting to be directed at the world in general, rather than yourself in particular.

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 01:25 pm (UTC)
tomo2k: Sorry Nutcase

Afraid I do not have such a device.

Never saw the point of personal organisers - all my work-related tools need a proper lappy to run them on, except the really specialised stuff that has dedicated hardware.
And I use pieces of paper for note-taking - I almost always have a pen, and I've always got some bits of paper on me.

Incidentally - IR has always been close to useless anyway.
It needs line-of-sight, and gets easily swamped by large infra-red radiators. Like the sun, or incandescant lamps...

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 01:33 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: The preferred abbreviation is "McNut".

Would you call McDonald's "Donald's"?

Actually, bad example. It's known as "Mickey D's" when not being rendered as the noise of pukage...

but the Mc is an integral part of the name.

-- Sol-Earther Silas McNutcase Humphreys of Northington (Culture naming conventions there...)

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC)
tomo2k: Correction duely noted.

My apologies.

Anyway, I should be picking up The Book tomorrow - will have to arrange a suitable meeting-point.

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 06:46 pm (UTC)

That should read Duly, not Duely.

*Must learn to READ what I wrote BEFORE posting...*

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 06:48 pm (UTC)

Well, I'm available pretty much everything but Fridays, and trains to London usually end up at Victoria for me...

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 02:42 pm (UTC)
lionsphil: No, IR is good.

It's close-range, LoS-dependant communication. This, unlike Bluetooth, means that you need pretty much physical contact for a connection, which means that I'm not inadvertantly communicating when I don't want to be. It's nice, simple tech which does the job it needs to.

Bluetooth is pretty horrendous from a privacy standpoint, and this is not helped by the dumb and promiscuous configuration of many devices.

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
mcnutcase: When it works, IR is good.

I provided my beloved with a copy of FSBS via IR, for example, and a previous phobile had IR and allowed me to synch contact with the Palm the rather unsophisticated way (beam them back and forth).

However, I have yet to meet a laptop upon which IR has been anything even remotely resembling useful.

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)
tomo2k: Re: When it works, IR is good.

I'd still rather have a cable.

Wires are secure and reliable, and it's usually fairly obvious when they are broken.

I have been told by various people that a £10,000 wireless system can be almost as good as a £10 cable.

Tue, Sep. 12th, 2006 10:11 pm (UTC)
lionsphil: Wireless /what/ system?

I have two Palms at some random location. If I can sit them head-to-head and zap data across without fishing about in my bag for a wire, this is a Good Thing. I'm sure you appreciate your modern TV remote over the old wired versions that kicked about a bit in the '80s ('70s?), and wifi for your laptop. This doesn't mean that good ol' CAT-5 isn't the right deal for hooking up desktops.

You can't just compare all wireless systems and all wired systems as if they're just two atomic entities. /Especially/ when "wireless" itself breaks down into a whole bunch of different technologies.